Could the Messiah be Someone other than Jesus?
End-Time World Events suggest we may find out in 2025!
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“Yes, the Messiah or Christ could be someone other than Jesus:
In Judaism
The term "messiah" originally referred to a divinely appointed king or anointed one, such as Aaron, David, Cyrus the Great, or Alexander the Great. After the Hasmonean Kingdom failed and the Jewish–Roman wars, the messiah was expected to deliver the Jews from oppression and usher in the Messianic Age.
In Islam
Jesus is considered to be the Messiah, the penultimate prophet and messenger of God. He is believed to have been sent to guide the Children of Israel with the Injīl (Evangel or Gospel).
Christians believe that Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah, or "Christ". They believe that Jesus fulfilled some messianic prophecies through his mission, death, and resurrection, and that he will return to fulfill the rest.
The word "messiah" comes from the Hebrew word mashiach, which means "anointed one". In the original New Testament Greek, the word is christos, which is a translation of mashiach.”
If Jesus is not the Messiah then what path (family tree) will the Messiah come from?
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“‘A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse;
from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
The Spirit of the Lord will rest on him –
the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding,
the Spirit of counsel and of might,
the Spirit of the knowledge and fear of the Lord –
and he will delight in the fear of the Lord.
The wolf will live with the lamb,
the leopard will lie down with the goat,
the calf and the lion and the yearling together;
and a little child will lead them.
The cow will feed with the bear,
their young will lie down together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox.
The infant will play near the cobra’s den,
and the young child will put its hand into the viper’s nest.
They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,
for the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the Lord
as the waters cover the sea.
In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his resting-place will be glorious.’ (Isaiah 11:1-3a, 6-10; NIVUK)”
ISAIAH 9:6
‘For to us a child is born,
to us a son (Jesus) is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counsellor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Of the greatness of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and for ever.
The zeal of the Lord Almighty
will accomplish this. (Isaiah 9:6-7; NIVUK)
Many use Isaiah 9:6 as a Trinitarian proof text. It assigns the titles “mighty God” and “everlasting Father” to Jesus.
Few Christians know that most verses used to teach the doctrine of the Trinity are based on questionable translations.
On the surface, this verse appears to be a remarkable trinitarian proof text. But a closer examination uncovers a mistranslation.
There are two primary interpretations for the identity of this child. Most Christians believe this child is Jesus Christ. Some Trinitarians, Biblical Unitarians, and non-Christian Jews, etc. believe that this child was King Hezekiah or possibly another king.
For to us a child is born: Perhaps a future king David?
Isaiah 9:6 should be interpreted within the context of verses 1-7. All popular Trinitarian translations use future verbs tenses not found in Hebrew manuscripts to dress up Isaiah 9:6 into a prophecy of Jesus.
The Hebrew word for“name,” וְ (“and his name shall be called”) is singular which indicates that this child has one name, not four distinct names as found in Trinitarian translations. When the word “name” in the singular form is examined in other passages, with rare exceptions, it identifies one name, not multiple names.
The Hebrew word for “called” (“his name shall be called“) is in the active voice. This means that the subject performs this action. The only possible subject in this verse who could have named this child is “God.” But Trinitarian translations changed the verb, “called” into a passive voice.
The New Testament does not teach that Isaiah 9:6 is a fulfillment of any prophecy. None of the titles mentioned in this verse, (“wonderful counselor, mighty God, everlasting father, prince of peace”) are applied to Jesus in the Bible.
Two ancient sources provide an interpretation of Isaiah 9:6 that is consistent with Hebrew grammar rules. The child was already born, had a government on his shoulders, and he was called one, singular non-divine name.
It’s time to place the identity of this child under the exegetical microscope. “For to us a child is born, to us a son (Jesus) is given.”
In some translations, this sentence is a serious mistranslation. The verbs “born” and “given” are in the past tense in Hebrew. In fact, they are in a perfect tense which indicates completed actions.
Most translations use present tense verbs, “is born,” and “is given.” While technically, the English historical present describes past actions in the present, in the interest of translating God’s Word as accurate as possible, the underlying manuscripts should be mirrored. Consequently, this verse should read, “was born” and “was given.”
Some translations use future tenses in Isaiah 9:6a which is a serious mistranslation. The NASB (1995) says, “For a child will be born to us, a son (Jesus) will be given to us.” Such translations of this verse are a forgery.
Those who have a high regard for God’s inspired word should be outraged to discover that Bible translators purposefully changed God’s Word to conform to their Trinitarian presuppositions.
In Mark 7:7, Jesus accused the religious leaders who had corrupted the theological framework of ordinary Jews of, “thus making void the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down” (Mark 7:13b).
Christians today sometimes forget that Bibles are translations created by Trinitarian scholars.
Bible translations don’t supersede thousands of underlying manuscripts. Since all credible manuscripts have past tense verbs here, translators should be faithful, except in rare cases where it is grammatically impossible to retain the same meaning.
Verbs Tenses Examined Using Logos Bible Software
The book, The prophecy of Isaiah: An Introduction & Commentary, admits, “9:1–7 is couched in past tenses” (Motyer, J. A., 1996, 98).
The book, Moses and the Prophets: An Essay toward a Fair and Useful Statement of Some of the Positions of Modern Biblical Criticism, writes, “Occasional instances of what some have called the “prophetic perfect,” as in Isa. 5:13; 9:1–7, are no real parallels. Their immediate context clearly prevents misapprehension” (Terry, M. S.,1901, 122).
Some Trinitarians admit that the verbs in Isaiah 9:6 are in the past tense in Hebrew, but claim they are “prophetic perfects.” That is, they describe future events that are so certain to happen, the author used past tenses. Therefore it is possible for us a child is born could be a possible king David in our time.
A few passages in the Old Testament may contain past tenses describing future events. Nevertheless, translations should be faithful to manuscripts and accurately translate inspired verb tenses.
With past tenses and historical presents as necessary, the verse reads, “For unto us a child was born, to us a son (Jesus) was given; and the government is/was upon his shoulder, and his name is/was called …”
Using Logos Bible Software, a word search can be performed on the word “born” with the same Hebrew tagging. It is pual (passive voice), perfect tense (past completed action), third person, masculine, and singular. A search of this word in the Old Testament with the same morphology will inform us how the word “born” is translated in other passages. Is it past, present, or future? This can inform us if Isaiah 9:6 describes a birth that already took place or was future.
A search produces 16 hits. All these verbs are translated as past tenses with three historical presents. Remember, historical presents describe past events using a present tense. The past tenses are “was born” (2 times), “were born” (8 times), “has been born” (1 time), “was descended” (1 time), “one was born” (1 time), and “is born” (3 times). Not one use is in the future tense.
The next verb in the sentence is the word, “given” (“for to us a child is born, to us a son (Jesus) is given”). A search of this word with the same morphology produces 14 hits. Once again, past tenses dominate the landscape. Here are the returns. It is “given” (1 time), “there was given” (1 time), “had been given” (1 time), “was committed” (1 time), “issued (1 time), “is set” (2 time), “is given” (1 time), “shall be given” (1 time), “was given” (2 times), “is raised” (1 time), “it is given” (1 time), “was spread” (1 time).
To be transparent, one word is conjugated into a future tense in Isaiah 35:2. It is, “shall be given.” While the word “given’ is in the past tense, it is qualified into the future tense by the words, “shall be” because of other grammatical features in this verse. In contrast, Isaiah 9:1-6 (again) contains all past tense verbs.
Because of past, completed actions, the birth of the child happened hundreds of years before the birth of Jesus Christ.
The verse continues, “and the government shall be upon his shoulder.” Because the verb, “be” is in the past tense in Hebrew, the future tenses in the ESV and other Bibles are a purposeful mistranslation.
A search for this word returns 86 hits. They are all past tenses with a few historical presents that describe past events. So why does Isaiah 9:6 in all major Trinitarian translations include future tenses? Trinitarian translators framed this verse into a prophecy of Jesus. Their Trinitarian partisanship is undeniable.
The fourth and last verb in the sentence is the word, “called.” This word with the same conjugation is found 208 times. The only future tense I could find is Isaiah 9:6!
With past tenses and historical presents as necessary, the verse reads, “For unto us a child was born, to us a son (Jesus) was given; and the government is/was upon his shoulder, and his name is/was called David”
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